Re: The chat room/forum problem (& an apology to @Technosailor)

Replying to:

I think this is a case where the person is ranting about the trees and ignoring the forest.

It is especially glaring considering your tech reputation as a service tester/service influencer.

Just look at the stuff that’s out there like and

For a guy being in online communities for so long you would think that it would dawn on you that web services evolve.

Yet Twitter releases a “flawed” list feature and you went Ga Ga over the whole thing.

You even made the large jump from blogging to Twitter. (Yes! By your distaste for Plurk in the comments you’ve somehow thrown microblogging under the bus.)

The reality is that Twitter isn’t successful because it has some auto-magical filtering methodology.

The more people you follow, the more you’re required to filter it via TweetDeck and other similar filtering mechanism.(or you’re forced to self-filter)

Twitter is successful because it has a huge community and it’s simplicity allows it to be better integrated in many services.

That huge community does not equate to the service being problem-free of the chat/forum problem.

That service is problem-free because as many FF users already told you in your FF topic, the problem is non-notable in Twitter.

You simply don’t multi-converse in Twitter.

You broadcast and you “mention” and you direct message a single person.

In fact, just look at your blog article.

You had to create multiple images just to make a twit seem like a linear conversation.

…and you had to have been following that person or have known someone who would retweet that person’s twits (and you would have to have been in the right place at the right time or be a power twitter to see that message.)

That still falls under “A Friend of a Friend.”

…and blogs bringing more value over time? Please.

There are tons of services that support “flawed” blogging in their services. None of them get this mythical “bloggers get smarter over time and they have more experiences to pull on.”

It’s still user size based. (and to an extent, “open” based.)

Like Twitter, the more open the service is to another service, the more potential it has of being adapted.

…and the more it is adapted by developers, the more apps and services are linked to it.

None of this is predicated on bloggers getting smarter and becoming experts. People just needs to want to hear you talk enough to subscribe to you.

In the end, it’s just the same as in every other broadcasting based pursuit. You get a large enough following in your specific niche and then people would much more likely associate themselves with your blog.

But what evidences do you have that blogging is not heading the path of chats and forums?

The fact that you, an A-lister, can un-subscribe to a feed in your Reader?

If that were enough, you wouldn’t have originally praised such services like FriendFeed.

The fact is, just as the popular forums and chatrooms still gets lots of visitors, the blogs that are mostly discovered and subscribed to are those with already large followings.

This will only get narrower the more professional bloggers link back to each other.

The narrower this gets, the more necessity there is of a new technology or a new way to filter all these things out.

Hell – if it weren’t for the boom of social media – in particular Digg and Slashdot, blogging wouldn’t have as large a community as it gained.

How much worse would this get in the future where filtering sites are filtering out filtering sites and only the desired content of the mainstream and top bloggers are trickled down to your average “non-blogging” users?

The bottomline is that neither Twitter, Friendfeed nor Facebook (just as the previous technologies that came before them) are the tipping point of this glass called online communication.

Just because you’re currently using Twitter (w/ lists) doesn’t mean the world changed in a week.


Really until the day blogs and Twitter can replicate forums and chatrooms perfectly and vice versa, this is a moot argument.

P.S. Yes, I added the Diigo link because one link makes it read like I’m spamming a service.

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